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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leaf Blade would work, it's just that 70 power in Gen 3 that makes it a little unsettling. I guess X-Stats would be used a little more often.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, Solarbeam is 120 power, but that's over two turns, which amounts to 60 per turn. So technically, Leaf Blade is the better choice (plus the crit chance is nice).

Unless you want to run Sunny Day/Solarbeam/Dragon Claw/filler. The filler would probably be EQ for steels, but good luck beating something like a Skarmory with that. Sceptile learns Thunderpunch in Emerald, but you need to get to the Battle Frontier to learn it, sooooo yeah.

Anyway, Solarbeam is only useful with Sunny Day, so I'd rather use the extra slot for something else. Leaf Blade/Dragon Claw + [Toxic/Brick Break/EQ/Aerial Ace, pick two] is probably your best bet.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So much for a weak move pool.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bring two bits of news that will bring super jealousy haha:

1) I have been to the Pokemon Centre in Tokyo and bought some stuff but even better......
2)I got to play a demo of Black and White!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BadgerBomber wrote:
I bring two bits of news that will bring super jealousy haha:

1) I have been to the Pokemon Centre in Tokyo and bought some stuff but even better......
2)I got to play a demo of Black and White!


And yet you decided to post nothing about it? Can't really be jealous without knowing exactly what it's like, now can we
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sarg338 wrote:
BadgerBomber wrote:
I bring two bits of news that will bring super jealousy haha:

1) I have been to the Pokemon Centre in Tokyo and bought some stuff but even better......
2)I got to play a demo of Black and White!


And yet you decided to post nothing about it? Can't really be jealous without knowing exactly what it's like, now can we


Pfffft fine haha!
Firstly I had to stand in line for an hour to play it, you only get about 10 mins.
When you start the demo you get given 3 random pokemon out of 6 in a list I got, Tsutaja, Pokabu and Shikijika.
Theres some talking between characters, couldnt understand it so kept pressing a until I could do a battle.

The animations are really smooth and feels all new. Move pools seem pretty good the only thing I could tell was that theres alot about decreasing stats or gaining stats.

Pokabu's main move Nirto Charge makes him gain speed, Tsutaja's main move makes them lose accuracy, I think. So alot more messing around with stats.

Pokabu is proficent in Attack based moves while Tsutaja is mostly Special.

Shikijika is a deer who is a normal/grass type and changes colours depending on the season. I had him as a green colour which meant the game was in spring mode.

I did some fighting mostly paying attention to asthetics and menus etc. Finished a battle and did some walking around and by that time they had to move me along because the queue was going around half of the store.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's awesome, BB. Lucky son of a - :(

Anyways, wall of info:

* As a reminder, the games will be released on September 18th for 4800 yen each (around $50).

* The Victini you capture after obtaining the Liberty Ticket will know the attacks Incinerate, Quick Attack, Endure, and Confusion. Incinerate has 15pp and burns the Berries on your opponents, making them completely unusable.

* Victini is the Victory Pokemon, a dual Psychic / Fire type, stands 0.4m tall, and weighs 4.0kg. It is #000 in the Isshu PokeDex.

* Victini is in the basement of the lighthouse on Liberty Garden Island. Apparently, you are investigating an incident on the island and meet Victini in the process. It'll reappear if you K.O. it accidentally. To access this area, you need the Liberty Ticket; its distribution will take place from September 18th to October 18th via Wi-Fi.

* Mamambou is the Nursing Pokemon and a Water-type. It has the Hydration ability as well as a new one called Healing Heart, which cures its teammates of Status Conditions. Judging by its appearance, it is Luvdisc's evolution; Electivire was not revealed to be Electabuzz's evolution until much later. Mamambou stands 1.2m tall and weighs 31.6kg.

* Shikijika is the Season Pokemon, a dual Normal / Grass type. Its two abilities are Chlorophyll or Herbivore, the latter of which raises its attack when it is hit by Grass-type attacks. As has been repeated several times, Shikijika changes in appearance depending on the season: in the spring it is pink (like the official Ken Sugimori artwork), in the summer it is green, in the fall it is orange, and in the winter it is brown. It stands 0.6m tall and weighs 19.5kg.

* There will be a new in-game season each month of the real year, meaning three of each season a year. As seen on the bottom of the scan, the color of Isshu's terrain changes depending on the season.

* Wild Pokemon will vary by season and area.


* The very bottom of the left page shows that different areas of the map will be accessible during different seasons. It shows that during the winter, enough snow will pile up to allow you to go on top of a cliff.

* A new mini-game called PokeShifter will allow you to transfer Pokemon from fourth generation games to Black and White using two DS's. In a Pal Park-like manner, you select six Pokemon to transfer over on the DS with your fourth generation game and then encounter them in a grassy field in Black and White on the second DS. You use a sling shot to shoot Poke Balls at your Pokemon as they jump out of grass and back in, and when you hit them, you re-capture them.

* The PokeShifter is only available after you defeat the Elite Four, confirming their presence in the game.

* Dual wild Pokemon battles occur in dark green grass.

* You and your friends Belle and Cheren leave from your hometown of Kanokota Town and meet Team Plasma in Karakusa Town. There, one of the leaders is giving a speech to the local Trainers in which he says, "As humans, what is it that we should do?" In an earlier news story here, he had another line in which he said, "What we're discussing is liberating Pokemon."

* TMs will no longer expire after one use - you can use them as many times as you want, like HMs!

* The journey will once again revolve around collecting eight badges.

* Dento is the first Isshu Gym Leader - you fight him in Sanyo City.

* Aloe is the second Gym Leader, a black woman you fight in Shippou City. It is a very traditional city and has a museum, which is apparently part of the Gym. Its train rail lines are 100 years old.

* In both Gyms, you have to answer quiz questions to battle Dento and Aloe. For Dento's Gym, one of them asks about type compatibility, and in Aloe's Gym, one of them asks "What's is something that you eat, is warmed in a pan, and is delicious?" Aloe's quiz is apparently more general and not really Pokemon-related.

* Rotation Battle - Another three-on-three battle mode. You can only choose one of your Pokemon out of the three out to attack each turn. You have to predict which Pokemon your opponent will use and what attack they'll use for the greatest success. This type of three-on-three battle is in addition to the regular three-on-three battle mode and the one revealed last month where you can constantly rotate the position of your Pokemon.

* Miracle Shooter - Allows you to use items in wireless battles; you collect points each turn and can use them for the chance to use items. You can choose whether to use Miracle Shooter or not.

* Battle Subway - A subway where you can participate in seven battles at a time. If you win all seven battles you can earn battle points and exchange them for various gifts. There are three battle modes: single, double and multi battles. In multi battles you can team up with a friend wirelessly or with an in-game character. In all of the battle modes, each Pokemon you face is Level 50. There is one Trainer per train carriage.

* The Pokemon Musical contests will take place in the Musical Hall.

* Deru Power is a new term for the abilities you can win by partaking in High Link missions. For instance, some abilities allows you to double the amount of EXP. Points your Pokemon gain or halve the cost of items in PokeMarts. With the EXP. Points ability, anyone nearby using C-Gear will get the effect too, meaning some abilities can be shared with nearby players! You can trade these abilities with other players as well.

* You obtain the Deru Power from the Entrance Tree in the High Link area.

* A Vaporeon you meet in the Dream World has Hydration as its ability, meaning Pokemon can now have non-standard abilities! The other Eeveelutions you can obtain in the Dream World will also have different abilities than usual.

* CoroCoro states that many Pokemon you meet in dreams will have different abilities than usual.

* You can trade the berries and items you get in the High Link with other players. You leave items on the shelves to trade, as seen in the Pokabu artwork.

* There are no Berries in the Isshu region. They only appear in the Dream World.

* Through the Global Link you can download new covers for the C-Gear and PokeDex as well as new songs for the Pokemon Musical contests.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just finished a normal only type run of Heart Gold using:

Tauros the Tauros
Togetic the Togetic
Pidgeot the Pidgeot
And Raffy the Girafarig.

Raffy raped lance so hard.

But I was looking for another challenge to do on it. (Preferably not a Nuzlocke, but I could settle for it)

Any ideas of a challenge that makes it hard without being TOO hard? :/
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fatsausage wrote:
I just finished a normal only type run of Heart Gold using:

Tauros the Tauros
Togetic the Togetic
Pidgeot the Pidgeot
And Raffy the Girafarig.


Raffy raped lance so hard.

But I was looking for another challenge to do on it. (Preferably not a Nuzlocke, but I could settle for it)

Any ideas of a challenge that makes it hard without being TOO hard? :/


I assume it wasn't a super strict run then? >__>

I'd think Bug and/or Grass only could be quite challenging.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

inv4der wrote:
Fatsausage wrote:
I just finished a normal only type run of Heart Gold using:

Tauros the Tauros
Togetic the Togetic
Pidgeot the Pidgeot
And Raffy the Girafarig.


Raffy raped lance so hard.

But I was looking for another challenge to do on it. (Preferably not a Nuzlocke, but I could settle for it)

Any ideas of a challenge that makes it hard without being TOO hard? :/


I assume it wasn't a super strict run then? >__>

I'd think Bug and/or Grass only could be quite challenging.


It wasn't only normal, that would leave me with like... 3 pokemon to chose from with average or above stats.

And honestly... Who wants to use a furret?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tbf then it's not a normal only run >_>

I just finished Pokemon Yellow (again) using just Pikachu. Was pretty fun, after I beat all the gym leader's I grinded to level 75 then just took out half the e4, healed, took out the rest ;)

I'm very excited about Black and White, the "no old Pokemon" thing is very interesting, and means I'll actually learn what Pokemon are what. I hated Ruby/Sapphire so don't remember any of their Pokemon. And D/P were okay, but muh. Nothing beats the classic 251 in my book.

Also bought Pokemon cards the other day! Does anyone here play properly?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DanTheBib wrote:
Tbf then it's not a normal only run >_>


Meh, they still had sucky coverage, I did it for fun anyway...



I so totally don't feel like I wasted the past day and a half on a runthrough that ended up being a failure anyway >_>

Guess I'll go do a Nuz >_________________________________>
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 4:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

inv4der wrote:
I assume it wasn't a super strict run then? >__>

I'd think Bug and/or Grass only could be quite challenging.


I did a bug/poison run on Crystal a few months ago and it wasn't overly difficult. I did have to pull out a Haunter for the Elite Four because I really didn't feel like levelling for hours. I don't remember my team at all other than Venomoth and possibly Butterfree.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love doing single type/Pokemon runs.

Things like that I've done are:

Pokemon Yellow = Just Pikachu run.
Pokemon Blue = Just Fire type run.
Pokemon Red = Just Water run.
Pokemon Green = Rattata + Pidgey + Starter run (think I used Charmander).
Pokemon Yellow = Doing the first bit of the game normally, then using the glitches, getting Mew at Level 7, and training and using just Mew for the rest of it.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DanTheBib wrote:
I love doing single type/Pokemon runs.

Things like that I've done are:

Pokemon Yellow = Just Pikachu run.
Pokemon Blue = Just Fire type run.
Pokemon Red = Just Water run.
Pokemon Green = Rattata + Pidgey + Starter run (think I used Charmander).
Pokemon Yellow = Doing the first bit of the game normally, then using the glitches, getting Mew at Level 7, and training and using just Mew for the rest of it.


When did that come out?
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