Undertiered/Overtiered Songs

**Nyumi** · Joined: 07 Aug 2010 Posts: 159

Here are my picks.

Guitar: Wish (undertiered) - TIER 5 MY ASS. This thing should be an 8 (or perhaps a high 7, due to the sparsity of many parts of the chart).
Burn (overtiered) - The chimneys are the only hard part, and they're not THAT hard.
Modern Hits Theme (overtiered) - Epic song, but I think it should be an 8. With all those sliders, if you can pass Holy Wars, you should be able to comfortably pass this.

Bass: Twilight of the Thunder God (undertiered) - Need I say more? This song is basically TWO Misirlous. How it's not a 9, let alone the fact that it's a 5, is beyond me.

Drums: Move It On Over (undertiered) - This is just balls-to-the-wall stuff from the word go.

Vocals: Under Pressure (overtiered) - Quite tough, but not worthy of a 10.
Bohemian Rhapsody (overtiered) - ^
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**voidedalive2x** · Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 3:54 am Post subject:

I don't think we're supposed to post threads like this. Too much like a poll thread. However, I do see potential discussion.

(I'd report it, but the report thread button has always been acting strangely with me. Not intentionally trying to backseat.)
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**StormEagle** · Joined: 26 Apr 2009 Posts: 636 Location: Germany

Down With Disease - Drums (Undertiered)

The Bitter End - Drums (Undertiered)

Lonely is the Night - Vocals (Overtiered)
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**ShiftBreaker** · Joined: 17 Jun 2007 Posts: 4708

Wish is Undertiered? I found it pretty simple and it is the same riff for the most part. And compared to songs in the same group (Black Friday, Wherever I May Roam, Dance, Dance, etc.) it makes a fair bit of sense to be where it is.

Generally, I think that for the most part, the tiers have been fine for these games (Well, for guitar, definitely). I mean, until you compare them to other games tierings, then they do seem a bit off. The only ones that immediately spring to mind are Bodhisattva being a 7, when it should be an 8 or a 9, Sweating Bullets being a 7, when it should be a 6 and those few Tier 9 borderline songs which have potential to be a 10. Play With Me, Hangar 18 and Speeding, the latter of which definitely could be.
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**The-B.O.D.** · Joined: 20 Dec 2008 Posts: 2413 Location: Portland, Oregon

Some obvious ones are:
One Way Or Another being a 4 on vocals (undertiered)
Ring Of Fire being a 3 on drums (undertiered)
Camel's Night Out being a 9 on drums (overtiered)
Holy Wars being a 10 on Bass (overtiered, I mean Deadfall was a 9 and it is way harder)
Fury Of The Storm being a 9 on drums (undertiered)
The Rock Show being a 3(?) on vocals (undertiered)

**GuitarHailz** · Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 4910 Location: Austin, Texas

Demolition Man - Tier 4 on vocals is vastly undertiered (I think this HAS to be one of the worst tiering mistakes)
Under Pressure / Bohemian Rhapsody - Tier 10's, and IMO overtiered just due to being Freddie Mercury

I'm no tiering expert, but I think a lot of the failure comes on the vocal tierings. It's true that the better you know a song the easier it is (such as Under Pressure... which being Freddie Mercury and David Bowie is definitely not easy, but everybody knows that song so it's not as difficult to learn and thus FC as others on the game). Songs you learn or already know obviously feel like they shouldn't be tier 8 or 9, so it's pretty subjective from person to person.

Still, certain qualities make a song in the upper tier of difficulty that most people can agree on. Stone Cold Crazy, for example (which isn't tiered, but would hopefully be an 8 or 9 on the easier GHWOR engine), FFWF, Turn Off the Light, ABC, etc. Only the pompous asshole who's FC'd it a hundred times would have the audacity to call these songs easy, and this is what will drive me insane about ScoreHero. I've FC'd most of Metallica, but that gives me no right to call them easy as it's definitely the hardest game I've ever played on vocals (don't believe me? Try it yourself... Hetfield never sings the same way twice, and the guest acts are no walk in the park either), and I'll never forget how hard it was to get that many FC's on 360.
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**Exxucus** · Joined: 12 Apr 2008 Posts: 928 Location: Daein

Most of the late GH5 era DLC has messed up tiers, since that was when they started basing DLC tiers off of medium, thus why TotTG and the soccer tunes have messed up tiers.

Several songs on Band Hero seem to be under tiered as well. I Want You To Want Me is Lust for For Life, but with random solo fills instead of odd strumming, yet is only a four or five. I Heard it Through the Grape Vine also seems under tiered, even with the ungodly HOPO chord sections and the 200+ note long outro trill.
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**tormentedbyu** · Joined: 25 Feb 2007 Posts: 3090 Location: Katy, TX

Just got done FCing Graduate and Burnin For You.

These should probably be just switched as far as tiering goes. Burnin has some pretty intense solos at the end of the song.

I understand that some people have some issues with extended sustains... but really? Graduate is like a 6 or so, whereas Burnin is like a 4. I don't think so.

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**WhYYZ** · Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 1:39 am Post subject:

Rio Drums 6...
Yah right....

And about Graduate, a LOT of people find it hard and just drop the Extended sustain for the FC.

Black Betty is 7 on drums even though that has been on the Un-FC'd list for ages. Literally!
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**LlamaYip** · Joined: 23 Dec 2008 Posts: 3151 Location: Chicago, IL

Are we including songs from pre-band games too? :P

**voidedalive2x** · Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 2:35 am Post subject:

**VeryMetalChewie** · Joined: 23 Mar 2008 Posts: 361 Location: Cardiff

The most obvious overtier is Bring The Noise - there is no way anything that's all talkies can be anything over 1/10.

**LlamaYip** · Joined: 23 Dec 2008 Posts: 3151 Location: Chicago, IL