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PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Holy Diver

There's a lot of solo, and some of it is pretty tricky...with the trickiest part right at the end too. I think it's a little bit harder than Crazy On You. I'm In The Band is kinda tricky too, but the strumming parts are pretty easy to learn and be consistent on.

Also, one thing that's been bothering me a little for awhile now. This is not a huge deal to me, but I just want to put this out there: Why are we allowing conditional votes? I really don't think that type of vote is in the spirit of the project. It's more of a vote against a song that you think is overrated than a vote for what you think is the hardest song.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BobDole wrote:
Also, one thing that's been bothering me a little for awhile now. This is not a huge deal to me, but I just want to put this out there: Why are we allowing conditional votes? I really don't think that type of vote is in the spirit of the project. It's more of a vote against a song that you think is overrated than a vote for what you think is the hardest song.

I can see your point there, but considering how we've been doing so far, there aren't any problems with that - if there are competition only between two songs in a matter of vote numbers, people naturally change their votes (in case they have previously voted for an underrated song) to the one of the two they think it's harder, which isn't actually different from conditional votes (of course, if both songs under conditional voting get many votes, the player will need to decide which of the two they will vote). If they didn't change their votes to the ones that are indeed in competition, it would be pretty much the same as not voting at all.

Now that you mentioned this, you made me realize the weighted voting system we had on the War Pigs readjustment was actually better since even the less voted songs get ranks. Best way to make a breakdown would be to make each player write their own breakdown list and then calculate the weighted votes in total like we did with the War Pigs thing. Of course, this would take way more work for everyone interested and it simply would never happen that way.

And as for "types of votes that are not in the spirit of the project" as you say, I would mention voting for a song when you're actually concerned about a particular song that has yet to come to the table, which is behind the one you're voting for. I've always found this type of voting kind of wrong since the breakdown order of the individual games have already been settled in their appropriate threads before this one.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Current votes:

Question 178
Crazy on You
1) Bulblax
2) RocksterLMS (conditional)

Holy Diver
1) JosephL
2) BobDole

I'm In The Band
1) voidedalive2x

Walk This Way (DMC)
1) FL4RE



BobDole wrote:
Why are we allowing conditional votes?


I was initially resistant against them, but now I'm considering them more as shorthand for "if X happens, then I'm gonna change my vote to Y" types of votes, so I don't think there's a particular problem with them.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I guess it isn't that much different than people changing their votes, which I've never really been bothered by. I personally will probably never submit such a vote, but I can accept them. Also...

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And as for "types of votes that are not in the spirit of the project" as you say, I would mention voting for a song when you're actually concerned about a particular song that has yet to come to the table, which is behind the one you're voting for. I've always found this type of voting kind of wrong since the breakdown order of the individual games have already been settled in their appropriate threads before this one.


I agree 100% with this; wish people wouldn't do that. Unfortunately it's impossible to police. You could stop people from doing it blatantly, but you can't stop people from lying/giving disingenuous reasoning for voting decisions.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Holy Diver gets my vote. Its two solos are more difficult than the difficult passages of Crazy on You, which I think is the only other song up for vote of comparable difficulty.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fuck I'm in the Band. That's much more difficult than Crazy on You.
My vote goes to I'm in the Band.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Question 178
Crazy on You
1) Bulblax
2) RocksterLMS (conditional)

Holy Diver
1) JosephL
2) BobDole
3) briland

I'm In The Band
1) voidedalive2x
2) CoolMotion

Walk This Way (DMC)
1) FL4RE



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crazy On You

There's just several tricky and missable parts that slightly separate it from the other songs.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Walk This Way (Run DMC)

I have yet to FC this, I hate it so much
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Definitely Crazy on You
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Question 178
Crazy on You
1) Bulblax
2) RocksterLMS
3) nunovanhalen023
4) UndeadFil13QC

Holy Diver
1) JosephL
2) BobDole
3) briland

I'm In The Band
1) voidedalive2x
2) CoolMotion

Walk This Way (Run DMC)
1) FL4RE
2) disturbedfreak (welcome to the voting)



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

disturbedfreak wrote:
Walk This Way (Run DMC)

I have yet to FC this, I hate it so much

But what makes the outro more difficult than what the rest of the songs have?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Question 178
Crazy on You
WINNER



Current question:

Question 177: Which song is HARDEST to FC on Expert Guitar?
GH1) Guitar Hero
GH2) Stop!
GH80s) Holy Diver
GH3) I'm In The Band
GH:A) Walk This Way (Run DMC)




Current vote:

Question 177
Holy Diver
1) JosephL
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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