Thank you, Activison.

**nytelyte** · Joined: 21 May 2006 Posts: 131 Location: Nashville, TN

rewinding and playing the same section a second time doesn't add to your streak, nor does it add to your note total. is that dificile difficulty hard, or expert?

**Grimnir** · Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 6:40 am Post subject:

Nyt, the way rewinds add to your note total is like this:

first play:

<-- rewind on blue
second :

:R:rewind ends:B:

Also I think there maybe a difference based on cross fade squeezing. I haven't played around with this... but you get a combo tick for every beat in cross fade. If you re-center on beat, if you center early this may cause the loss of a note.
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**nytelyte** · Joined: 21 May 2006 Posts: 131 Location: Nashville, TN

What I was saying was that rewinding doesn't affect the total notes hit at the end of the song.

**Kane40** · Joined: 25 Nov 2007 Posts: 762 Location: Belgium

Rewind itself doesn't change the streak, but "squeezing" in a rewind section seems to do so.

And "difficile" is Hard.

**Grimnir** · Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 3:16 pm Post subject:

Remember how many notes can be ticked to your combo at once. Two taps (chord) only count for 1 but if you're at a beat faded, fade back, and have a note that's 3.

But i do think there is another force acting here to change total notes that we don't know yet.
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**nardi11011** · Joined: 13 Jul 2008 Posts: 94 Location: Netherlands

It should work now. Link is the same as last time: DJHeroControllerThingy.zip
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shadow6463 wrote:

Zephyr618 wrote:

I've been practiving this over and over again and even at 50% speed I can't hit any notes... WTF?!??!?

Make sure you're hitting the drum controller

**mDaWg** · Joined: 01 Nov 2006 Posts: 221 Location: New Jersey

**Grimnir** · Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 10:03 pm Post subject:

so some experimentation with cross fade "notes" (ie what adds to your combo)

It seems to be a measure of time. Every x time in cross fade == note. This does not seem to count beats or measures, so if you fade early and exit late it could potentiall add a note to your multiplier in many instances across a song based just on how you play the area.
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**BemaniAK** · Joined: 15 May 2008 Posts: 73

**Grimnir** · Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 5:11 pm Post subject:

**BemaniAK** · Joined: 15 May 2008 Posts: 73

**Grimnir** · Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 6:18 am Post subject:

The comparison to gh1 is that there is no practice mode, the gameplay is buggy, and the graphics have some problems. The menu's are also shit, as is co-op (only 1 player can use the effector at a time in local co-op) and vs (you have to play completely different in vs in dj hero than you do solo b/c of no rewinds)

The comparison to rb is that there is only 1 mod speed and it's has hardly any effect. Speed mods are essential to these games, especially at a high level of play. Hand in hand with this is the scroll rate which varies by song tempo, which means you have to adjust your sight to the screen and timing with each song you play, rather than a universal scroll speed allowing the player to transition between songs, and play new songs, without problems. Also, it has a strum limit similar to rb, which is completely ignored as the charts contain sections which require more inputs than the controller can send.

the rhythm genre may be a "cut and paste" job as far as game general game design goes... that is something you could say about any genre. Game engine, and game design however vary quite a bit between two companies releases. Just look at ddr vs piu, or gh vs rb. There are many many differences in their engines and game design. I'm not complaining about these differences. The games SHOULD be different, as they cater to their market, and keeps themselves distinct from their competitors.

However the game engines buggyness is something that we really should not be seeing at this point in gaming development. They aren't going to patch it to fix it, and we don't know if they're even going to fix it in their next release. there are serious problems with this game that need to be addressed if it is going to be a major seller to either the casual or core players.
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**BemaniAK** · Joined: 15 May 2008 Posts: 73

That makes more sense.
But it's not like they looked at GH1 and said "We'll have kind of inconsistent controls" and looked at RB2 and said "Okay, one speed mod"

**Grimnir** · Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 8:32 am Post subject:

**Hafkie** · Joined: 12 Jun 2007 Posts: 1483

I usually hate adding to collective "BAWW" threads like this one, but......

I could deal with the hyperspeed being a cheat (Although it shouldn't.) but this is just too stupid for me not to rant about.

Why do the graphic effects cheats disable saving? I really want to know how background effects are grounds for disabling features of the game.

The cheats in DJ Hero are the opposite of GH and RB cheats for crying out loud.