Types of Music Fans

**this1neguy** · Joined: 19 Aug 2007 Posts: 5444 Location: Flint, MI

So I've noticed some interesting trends in music love and wonder what people's opinions are.

1) Indie kids - Like music no one's ever heard of solely because no one has heard of it; are willing to endlessly bash any band that has any notoriety in their eyes

2) Metalheads - The only good music is HARD COOOOOOOOOOORE

3) Anything goes - Fans of music because they like the music, not because of anything related to the scene or whatnot

4) Idiots - people who like Miley Cyrus >_> NOTE: THIS IS SARCASM. WHAT I'M TRYING TO SHOW ARE THE PEOPLE WHO LIKE MUSIC A LOT OF PEOPLE DISLIKE FOR WHATEVER REASON. THIS IS REALLY NOT A SERIOUS GROUPING.

5) Popular only - They listen to it because other people think it's good and thus have rather limited taste

I hate #1 people. I listen to a lot of stuff that's not overly popular (Streetlight, Portugal, MCS, etc) but I'm also willing to listen to a lot of stuff as long as it's not Miley Cyrus >_> Like last Wednesday half of my AP Psych class sang "I Want It That Way", and I've made sure to listen to stuff like Lady Gaga just to try and understand why it's so popular. Meanwhile, there are a lot of people out there who only like completely unknown bands and who I overhear bashing anything somewhat popular and I can't understand why.

Groups I missed? Talk about them!
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**Yewb** · Joined: 10 Jan 2008 Posts: 3020 Location: Plymouth, UK

I have to say, I think - and I suspect a good deal of SH would say the same - I fit squarely between groups 2 and 3. My preferred genre of music is metal, because I enjoy it artistically and aesthetically, but I also love alt-rock/post-grunge, grunge, thrash, good punk and Many More!

I'm totally with you in your hatred of people who stop liking a band when it becomes popular. These are people who get a kick out of belonging to a subset of society that is not just elitist but FOUNDED on elitism.

I also have to be honest when I discuss group number 5 - the only thing that attitude says to me is "doormat". Liking something because it's popular is almost as bad, in my eyes, as liking something because it isn't (in the same way as conformism is a more manageable trait in a friend than nonconformism). But hey, if it gets these people laid then it's achieved its presumed purpose.

I hope this thread lasts and stays civil. Also, Miley Cyrus is the shit.
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ShadoWolf wrote:

expertwin wrote:

I just want to, you know, get my name out there. BTW, it updates every Thursday, Friday, and Saturday. Was just the first two, decided to do Saturdays as well.

Serious advice now: No-one likes indecision in their work, so find what you like that you're even remotely good at, and stick with it. Don't flit from one thing to another, because that just smacks of a large lack of determination and drive. And people don't like you for that, and won't remember you for it. I mean, I get that you have a plucky spirit and a willingness to try new things, but there's a limit, man.

I might knock it down to just Thursday and Friday.

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**clawmaster2** · Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 2:13 pm Post subject:

Oi! Don't call people who listen to pop like Cyrus idiots, it just doesn't look good already. Every music fan has his/her opinion on the artist, if they like someone you don't that doesn't mean they're an idiot.
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**Fugitive** · Joined: 20 Aug 2007 Posts: 3035

You seem to just make massive generalizations about people who listen to certain types of music. In fact, you come off as just as pretentious as those "indie kids" that you hate. I mean, seriously, calling people that listen to Miley Cyrus idiots, knowing nothing more about them than that they listen to Miley Cyrus. Don't be ridiculous.

To address #1. Indie kids tend to listen to music they like, which is a particular type of music that isn't particularly popular. But you generalize the shit out of this group of people. Almost every hardcore indie kid I know loves Radiohead, despite their massive popularity. They didn't start disliking this band even though they've grown to have a fanbase that could rival the Beatles or Metallica. They appreciate music enough that even if good music is popular they like it. Now, this obviously doesn't go for all of them, because I'm not willing to generalize a group of people so heavily, but this tends to be true for most people who listen to indie, including myself.

#2. Yes, I listen to metal too. And heavier =/= better. That's a stupid generalization you just made up too. Metalheads don't just claim "HARD COOOOOOOOORE is the only good music." Bands need to have compositional, technical, and many other skills to be considered "good" by metalhead standards. If I screamed my ass off into a mic, beat the shit out of some drums, and wailed away on the heaviest chords on a bass and guitar, then mixed that together, that wouldn't make it good by metalhead standards... in fact, that would make a terrible song. That would be heavy as shit, but not good.

I don't think I need to really address #3, #4, and #5. They're, again, just generalizations on people that really don't hold true for the majority of anyone that you would probably put in those categories.

My guess is that you're in high school, consumed with clichés right now, and you feel this need to group people when you can rarely find a single person that falls solely into a single category. I cringed at every single assumption and generalization you made about the types of people who like various genres of music. I hope you can realize what you've done and eventually grow out of this need to group people based off unrelated details of their lives.

**Yewb** · Joined: 10 Jan 2008 Posts: 3020 Location: Plymouth, UK

Well, looks like my hopes were ill-founded. Two posts seems to be something of a record.

Am I the only person who sees he was being ironic with the Miley Cyrus comment?
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expertwin wrote:

ShadoWolf wrote:

expertwin wrote:

I just want to, you know, get my name out there. BTW, it updates every Thursday, Friday, and Saturday. Was just the first two, decided to do Saturdays as well.

Serious advice now: No-one likes indecision in their work, so find what you like that you're even remotely good at, and stick with it. Don't flit from one thing to another, because that just smacks of a large lack of determination and drive. And people don't like you for that, and won't remember you for it. I mean, I get that you have a plucky spirit and a willingness to try new things, but there's a limit, man.

I might knock it down to just Thursday and Friday.

JOE2210 wrote:

Leave me alone, I have been drinking and your made up words mean nothing to me.

**Fugitive** · Joined: 20 Aug 2007 Posts: 3035

**Yewb** · Joined: 10 Jan 2008 Posts: 3020 Location: Plymouth, UK

Edit: no, I shouldn't even get involved with this one.
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expertwin wrote:

ShadoWolf wrote:

expertwin wrote:

I just want to, you know, get my name out there. BTW, it updates every Thursday, Friday, and Saturday. Was just the first two, decided to do Saturdays as well.

Serious advice now: No-one likes indecision in their work, so find what you like that you're even remotely good at, and stick with it. Don't flit from one thing to another, because that just smacks of a large lack of determination and drive. And people don't like you for that, and won't remember you for it. I mean, I get that you have a plucky spirit and a willingness to try new things, but there's a limit, man.

I might knock it down to just Thursday and Friday.

JOE2210 wrote:

Leave me alone, I have been drinking and your made up words mean nothing to me.

**this1neguy** · Joined: 19 Aug 2007 Posts: 5444 Location: Flint, MI

**thenewkidaw71** · Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 9:48 pm Post subject: Re: Types of Music Fans

**Eastwinn** · Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 10:07 pm Post subject:

Apparently you missed the distinction between hardcore and metal but I'll let it slide because if I do more than mention it some white knight will ride in and call me pedantic and overly concerned with genres.

I agree with Fugitive that it's inappropriate to call #1 Indie kids since that kind of behavior appears in group #2 also.

So what are you, group #3? Right because this seems like a bit of ego trip to me, or maybe you're just really ticked at some of these groups. Honestly I haven't encountered any of these groups since I stopped taking myself so seriously. Why worry about it? Go sit over in group #3's corner and ignore all of the others -- if someone doesn't like the same band as you because they're popular then what does it matter? You don't have to enlighten them.
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**3starmaster** · Joined: 10 Jun 2007 Posts: 449

Indie kids are the kids that stop listening to a band once they become popular. My friends do this a lot with small rappers. For instance, they were huge into Asher Roth then his album came out and I heard one say "Ye, it's on the radio now and everyone's listening to him, I'm over him". Those are the asshat indie kids
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**Twang** · Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 10:34 pm Post subject:

I got a gripe with #2. It should just be 'elitists.' People who think their preferred genre is the only good genre. Believe it or not, it happens in more than just metal. There are people who think any music with less than 7 movements and lacks a brass section is 'not music.' etc etc.

Pretty sure I fall under #3.

Also kind of disagree with #5. Most people aren't as sheep-like as you seem to think. If someone doesn't like a song, I doubt they'll pretend to like it to fit in (or at least, I've never met anyone like that). It's just that what is played on the radio is all they know, because they're not like us (I'm assuming everyone on this board is more of a 'hardcore' music fan) who dig deep. Some people just don't care enough, or don't have the time to expand their tastes. You shouldn't look down on them for that, unless they get big-headed and start acting like they know everything. In that case, they're just a douchebag.

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**MetalheadNorm** · Joined: 21 May 2008 Posts: 1041 Location: Michigan

Dude, there are so many things wrong with your OP that it's ridiculous.

1. You shouldn't make such broad generalizations to begin with.
2. Most people who like the indie sound don't automatically dislike popular bands. It's absurd to think so.
3. You know nothing about Metal, don't talk about things you don't know.
4. People are actually into different types of Metal, not just the heaviest and darkest sludge or the fastest, most brutal death, or the rawest most cult black.
5. Also, you seem like a young person, so maybe you're not aware, but people who are into music EXPAND their tastes as they get older.
6. Usually, people who say they are into all kinds of music are actually not into music at all, they just illegally download a lot of mp3s.
7. Downloading MP3s is like the opposite of being into music...
8. Don't call people idiots based on their musical taste.
9. Also, "like music people generally dislike? = idiots?" Get out of here.
10. Popular only... lol it's insane to think that every trend bopper is going to be into every billboard hit there is. That just doesn't happen.
11. You didn't notice any trends, do some research before you generalize massive amounts of people like this.
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