Types of Music Fans

**GIRLintheFIRE** · Joined: 26 Dec 2009 Posts: 139

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**Twang** · Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 12:43 am Post subject:

**MetalheadNorm** · Joined: 21 May 2008 Posts: 1041 Location: Michigan

"Listen to everything" type of people in my experience have always been something opposite of what you would expect. It's a crutch for people that lack in-depth knowledge of music.

As for the lacking content: You either get where I'm coming from or you don't. It's different for everyone (and isn't just solely based on the degree of 'into' music you are) but yeah if you are not that 'into' music it's easy to discredit the value of these things.

I will try to explain it the best I can anyway:

Imagine you are reading a book about history and it shows pictures of perhaps the Eiffel tower in Paris. You decide that it is a very beautiful place, and appreciate it. However, no matter how detailed of a picture it is, or what the book says about this location, you still have never been to the Eiffel tower, and you can never experience it's history first hand.
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**Eastwinn** · Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 1:14 am Post subject:

Norm, you seem so infatuated with this dichotomy you've created between 'true' music fans and 'fake' ones. I saw it back in the collapse of the metal thread and I see it now. Who are you to measure someone's credibility as a listener? A listener is just that -- a bystander to an art. They need not rules. Whatever sounds good is good, there is nothing else to it. The culture that surrounds music is a result of how we die to celebrate it, but we can't let that celebration get to our head. You don't need a physical CD. It's a celebration, not music -- and if you plan on appreciating music you can kindly ignore the celebration.
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**Twang** · Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 1:22 am Post subject:

**MetalheadNorm** · Joined: 21 May 2008 Posts: 1041 Location: Michigan

**MetalheadNorm** · Joined: 21 May 2008 Posts: 1041 Location: Michigan

**NovaXD** · Joined: 02 Dec 2007 Posts: 884

i am going to attempt to make something of a summary of thoughts concerning this topic. there is going to be a sort of litote here:

good general rule for being a music fan: if you think you are a better music fan than other music fans then you should take a step back and reconsider why you think you are a better music fan.

people can like music for a lot of different reasons--because the sound appeals to them, because the argument the music makes (often, perhaps usually, there are some arguments) because they want to be more unique, because someone else told them to, sometimes maybe for no reason at all. there are more reasons to listen to music than these, but i think these are big ones to consider

there is a lot of drama about what music people like these days and it is not unnatural for this to be the case because there are significant complications that come with music advertisement and the uses of music by a greater media as is the fashion of the twenty-first century.

this is the way i listen to music, i think it is the best way but then again i have quite a bit of bias:

listen to some music
decide whether or not you like the way it sounds
this step depends on how much you like the way the music sounds.
- if you don't like the music: don't continue to listen to it. maybe don't listen to music similar to it. remember though: it may appeal to others
- if you like the music: continue to listen to it. maybe listen to music similar to it. remember thought: it may not appeal to others
repeat, if you like

you truculently disagree with me if you like; i'd just be flattered if someone cared about my opinion

**thenewkidaw71** · Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 1:46 am Post subject:

**Vampyromaniac** · Joined: 08 Feb 2008 Posts: 1216

Not a lot of people have defended the OP, but in all honesty, I know a lot of people who get SICK of bands when other people start listening to them, just for that reason, and that is VERY annoying.

I also know a lot of people who think the correlation between a band being heavy and a band being good is a purely linear one, to the point that a band who records so loudly and with such bad sound quality that every instrument and effect, even synths, are heavily distorted and BARELY discernable from one another will be revered as the new "Greatest band ever." ...And they have a new one every couple weeks, and that is annoying.

As for the group of people that listen to music only because others do, meh, I don't really rage about that, because 99% of the people that seem to fall into this category really do like those types of music... ALTHOUGH at least half of them would probably prefer other music if they were to expand their horizons and give some serious listens to less common forms of music. They can't be blamed for that, because as someone mentioned earlier, they usually either don't have the time or resources to do so, or they just don't even know that kind of music is out there, and it's probably not something they usually consider.

Now, bear in mind I do prefer bands to not be exceedingly popular, because they will become overplayed. But if there's a band I love, I'm going to tell everyone I know about them that I think will enjoy their music, and spread the word. Hell, I've created scores of Dream Theater fans. Also, as for what I said about metal, I LOVE metal with a really heavy sound, but there has to be more to it than JUST that. For example I love bands like Behemoth or The Faceless, but also softer music like Enya. But If a song is basically one long blast beat overlayed with gallops and regular bass drops, and every word is indistinguishable, that is a bit silly.
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