Community vs Trogdor: Progress thread

**Mike65707** · Joined: 04 Oct 2007 Posts: 1477 Location: Missouri

Is the fact that it can be FC'd on lower speeds mean it's theoretically possible on Full Speed? I mean you can obviously strum more than enough on lower speeds to hit all the notes, but the timing between each note should be the same. And from what I can gather, the timing windows being so bunched up is what is making it so hard to hit.

Or am I just wrong all together? :P

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**MarkAllen1988** · Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 3:32 am Post subject:

**Pas26** · Joined: 04 Oct 2008 Posts: 3664 Location: Québec, Canada

I THINK I found out what's going on.

The timing window is in ms, right?

The game will only let you act one frame at a time though, right?

Here's me theory:

AS SOON AS one single ms of the frame that you are currently playing has a ms that is out of the timing window, any strum in this frame is going to be a miss.

Now, on Full speed, you have maybe 8 frames to hit a note on this solo, not considering the strum limit. If my theory is right, this means that only 7 of them are useable.

On slowest, you have twice as much frames to hit a note, so 16. Again, one of them gets killed by my theory, bringing it to 15.

7 times two = 14.

14 vs 15... so on slowest it's a tad easier, PLUS the strumming is MUCH more steadier compared to the section, which makes it less likely to cross the strum limit.

If someone can reword it, or even see where I'm going and keep going in that direction, I'm tired as fuck.
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**LlamaYip** · Joined: 23 Dec 2008 Posts: 3151 Location: Chicago, IL

So this is a very rough image of a strategy I formulated very quickly.

The purple line shows about where you can start to the the first Y note, which I would suggest you strum there. The orange lines and normal strums, the blue lines are the 2/1 strums and the red lines are HOPOs.

Essentially, what occurs is that you strum the

all normally, but when you get to the

, in the end you only use 3 total strums, so that you can be set up for the

, and use a couple 2/1 strums and strum it normally for the most part.

It's an awful drawing, I know..

Ill come up with more later.

Epic 2200th post.
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**thenewkidaw71** · Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 4:41 am Post subject:

um marbler is getting several -3s and -4s on 360 NTSC on stream right now
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**MajorGeek42** · Joined: 22 Mar 2007 Posts: 431 Location: Sacramento, CA

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**Marbler** · Joined: 28 Feb 2009 Posts: 889

I got a -2... I know it's not a -1, but the misses were 1 in the blues (which never happens) and 1 in the oranges (simply because I strummed too fast for that one split second). I don't care what any of you say, this FC will come to me. I will have this soon.
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**Strykerx** · Joined: 02 Jul 2007 Posts: 3110 Location: Pants

Just sayin, I've had -1 on Trogdor for about 2 years now. Done it a few times since. FC'd as far as the last 3 oranges once over that time. Literally zero progress in 2 years. Nothing is "close" to an FC, there's just the FC, and then way the fuck off. And I've tried over that time, believe me, you can ask lots of people around SH.

It's definitely not impossible, by the way. All I'm saying is that a -1 doesn't mean much when trying to FC.
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**eddaket** · Joined: 19 Jul 2007 Posts: 2020