A friendly discussion on the merits of rap/hip-hop music

**HellAshes** · Joined: 06 Apr 2006 Posts: 8320 Location: Livingston, NY

^What this guy said. Nothing more ironic could have happened.

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ShadoWolf wrote:

Fuck you HellAsses you fucking fucker

mazegeek999PSN from my accomplishments thread wrote:

koloxid wrote:

holy fuk
do you ever stop

Well, he hasn't posted in a month.

**joekickass1234** · Joined: 10 Jan 2008 Posts: 1436 Location: Cherry Hill NJ

I agree with this guy (somewhat). Yeah, it would be pretty cool if rap/hip hop "never existed." The Rock genre would be much more popular and mainstream. I honestly do not enjoy listening to rap or hip hop so it would be a lie to say that I would rather have rap/hip hop exist.

Unfortunately for me and all others who agree with me, it was created and does exist. Oh well. I'm not going to complain about it on a forum site. I'm just going to say "I respect your opinion even though I think you completely wrong in what you think." C'est la vie. :\
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**machchunk** · Joined: 28 Oct 2006 Posts: 3829 Location: Pasco, WA

So you would want an entire form of expression that has done much good for blacks, trying to fully become societal equals to whites in America in the last half-century, and in general people in tough economic situations, to have never existed because you want to hear more rock music in public

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popemobile wrote:

I'd suggest first getting a better songwriter and then changing genres.

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**Rocker0913** · Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 5:39 pm Post subject:

Ok, I hate the rap that is getting massive playing in recent years. I'll get that out of the way right now.

However, there are always diamonds in the rough. Always. I believe in the fact that it's guaranteed that in any genre of music, be it techno, rap, rock, whatever, that there will be something that you will like if you look hard enough. Personally, I hate techno and electronic music in general, but some of my friends showed me to Daft Punk, and from what I've heard from them, they are actually good, I actually like some of their songs. I also don't like dance music, but I love What is Love by Haddaway. (Seriously, who doesn't like this song?)

Hell, to further my point, I'll go with a specific band, AFI. I hate their recent stuff, hate it to death. However, recently I've been looking through the classic soundtracks of the Tony Hawk Pro Skater games that I played when I was a kid like how we play Guitar Hero or Rock Band. What do you know, THPS3 had a song from AFI from 15 years ago or so that kicks ass.

Now with rap, there are good songs. Just sticking with the Tony Hawk games, I like these songs (granted, I might be looking through rose-tinted glasses towards my nostalgic childhood, but I still like them):
B-Boy Document '99 (Featuring Mos Def & Mad Skillz) - The High and Mighty
Subculture - Styles of Beyond
Amongst the Madness - The Nextmen

and the most prominent example:

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**Shreddies** · Joined: 20 Jun 2007 Posts: 138 Location: Canada

Lil Wayne sucks. FACT. His suckitude transcends the 'lolopinions' argument.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTurfn7vvCk&ob=av3e

/nuff said
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**evilpacman18** · Joined: 26 Jun 2009 Posts: 948 Location: Azusa, CA

edit - ignore this if OP is troll

Only read OP, didn't bother to read posts because rage was too intense:

FUCK YOU, YOU IMBECILE. Being a good rapper requires ridiculous amounts of natural talent. Any decent rapper is a better songwriter than any Rock musician could ever possibly hope to be. As someone who loves Rock, Rap, and many other genres of music equally, I can say without bias that Rap requires more talent. Rock requires dedication to learn how to play instruments well but Rap takes certain skills that people are lucky to be born with, and are nearly impossible to attain with any amount of practice. The two genres focus on different aspects of music. Rock focuses on instrumental talent, Rap focuses on songwriting. No Rapper will ever be fucking Ritchie Blackmore on guitar but no Rock musician could ever hope to have the song writing talent of OutKast or Blackalicious. Fucking idiot metalheads like you give a great genre such a bad name. You're stubborn, ignorant, condescending, and you don't have the ability to respect other peoples' opinions and force your own on them. You don't deserve the fucking right to have an opinion, the way you abuse it, dumbass.

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**RichardGHP** · Joined: 01 May 2009 Posts: 2327

I never thought I would see the day. But I agree with MetalheadNorm.