RIP Amy Winehouse

**GuitarHailz** · Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 4910 Location: Austin, Texas

I think it's best to summarize my thoughts from youhas/JosephL's posts a while back in The Rant Thread:

**blingdomepiece** · Joined: 03 Aug 2007 Posts: 4358 Location: Ottawa ON Canada

Perhaps the reaction to a celebrity's death mirrors what it was in life though. I remember a lot of jokes made when Michael Jackson died, and he accomplished significantly more as an artist than Winehouse. But he was also in the news a lot more for his "other issues" the last 15-20 years of his life and the fact he was a musician was all but forgotten. Amy Winehouse put out two studio albums. The better received one, "Back in Black", doesn't crack the top 100 at RYM for its year of release. Now you can say "RYM is a bunch of hipsters who listen to Neutral Milk Hotel all day long", but Michael Jackson's "Thriller" is #5 for its year of release, so I'm not sure it's that easy to dismiss.

Maybe part of the reason everyone remembers her being in the news for drug problems is because apart from that, she didn't really do that much that would have gotten her into the news. Maybe in the end she was a fairly minor artist with a good voice who injected away whatever potential she had.
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**HellAshes** · Joined: 06 Apr 2006 Posts: 8320 Location: Livingston, NY

Wasn't she a one-hit wonder? "Strawberry Wine" and I think that's her big song or something? I never followed her music since that genre is one I'm not too fond of. If there's one thing people can learn from her death though is pretty simple. "Drugs are bad m'kay."
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ShadoWolf wrote:

Fuck you HellAsses you fucking fucker

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**GuitarHailz** · Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 4910 Location: Austin, Texas

@ Yewb:

I may not personally be into her music and all, I guess I was just surprised less people actually made a point of talking about her music, since that was the point of keeping the thread to music discussion (right?). Otherwise I figure the General Chat thread would have remained the active one. Just an observation, really. I'm certainly just as guilty of it as anybody else (though I'd like to think my/our off-topic discussion has been a little more meaty than "LOL SHE DID DRUGS," yeah?). I'm only familiar enough with her to know that she did have a good voice.

I must have trouble verbalizing what I mean, because that last post obviously didn't cut it. I certainly don't draw the line past what I think is acceptable and call everyone behind it an asshole. Hell, I married a guy who would probably make a bunch of goofy Michael Jackson jokes or what not, and probably would joke about this too if he cared. That's not the point, a lot of my friends say asshole things that are not to my liking, but I figured it would be obvious that what I'm talking about is respect for the deceased, something even my friends, complete with their childish goofiness, can have respect for. This is one of those "this isn't my opinion, it's just the way it is" things. I probably assumed being respectful of recent death was one of those universal things people did, so chalk that one up to me being naive.

As for "do things the way I like or I'll hate you for it but, like, it's totally YOUR choice, man," I think that's a little extreme... I certainly won't hate people for not doing things the way I would do them, obviously I'd have no friends at all if that were the case

But I don't think putting up with/encouraging behavior that should be unacceptable just so I don't hate anybody is the best choice either. I shouldn't have to ignore an overall lack of human decency in order to participate in society. If you really think my standards are too high as far as acceptable levels of offensiveness, you really don't know me at all (anybody who thinks this would just like to imagine I am easily offended, as it makes them feel better about continuing to be a dick).

You're right about the generalizing, though, it is something I am guilty of, although it's less malicious than you seem to imply. I usually see it as an ongoing joke with me and the internet. "Why do I hang out with these goofy 15 year old guys!?" being the common phrase, and I assumed it would be obviously a comment in jest, since if I recall, ScoreHero's average age is in the 18-25 range. Something like that. So no, I don't think you're all prepubescent angsty guys, but I'm sure some are out there. ;) Honestly it's because of ScoreHero's overall track record that I usually hold people up to a higher level of internet behavior, otherwise I wouldn't bother posting here at all, y'know?

However, even though you've got that much right, I find it difficult to believe that in a group of people who make jokes such as these, me calling them 14-year-olds and generalizing them accordingly would offend them terribly; I think they can handle it.

But, if you are offended about that of all things posted in this thread, I do apologize, and hopefully the above explanation is sufficient (not sarcasm).

And yes, the post is long, but I like to reply fully to your post, because I felt it deserved a decent reply.
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Are people honestly trying to justify those horrible "jokes" and trying to say being called a 14 year old (which isn't even an insult, if that's not your age, don't act that age) is comparably offensive?
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