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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 11:01 pm    Post subject: WTDLC - FC Breakdown Project - Thread 10 - Adjustment Q2/3/4 Reply with quote

I'm reopening this thread with a story. Back before Scorehero's new servers, it would sometimes take quite a while for threads to update, especially on Mondays, and ESPECIALLY original posts with a lot of content, such as one housing a list of songs for use in FC breakdowns. In order to make things bearable, I deleted most of the content for some breakdowns, including this one. I kept the hardest 30 or so songs, because at the time, we were only voting for the hardest 50 DLC songs, and I didn't think we needed more than this.

Fast forward to present day. We've picked WT DLC 7 out of the last 8 songs, and about 27 out of 90 on the current DLC breakdown. We've only got 2 songs left to use, so I figure we need more DLC songs. The problem is that SpoonMan (who was originally running these breakdowns) adopted a group and merge system (which was perfectly right at the time), so there's no real way to see what was deemed easier than Cyanide. I've looked through the thread, and found that 53 songs were deemed easier than Cyanide, but harder than another pivot song, Well Thought Out Twinkles. I'd like to use these 53 songs to add to the WT DLC breakdown list and ensure that the DLC breakdown can safely continue to 100 spots.

The easiest (and quickest) way to do this, I think, is open ballot. The songs are below, and for those of you still familiar with these songs, please pick the hardest ones. We'll aim for 15, but 10 would be a good minimum. Then we'll vote on these. I remember a few of them being challenging (Black Betty, Dez Moines, Fire, the two S&Rs, The Unforgiven III, and I know Jimi is oddly annoying to FC), but that's it.

I'm really sorry that this has happened, and I wish I could think of a better way to sort these, but I know speed is becoming an increasingly important factor as well; I think everyone's starting to get tired of these threads, myself included. If you'd like, we can actually properly break down these 53 songs, but I'd like to see how this works. Thank you for your understanding, and happy voting.

P.S. I already tried Wayback Machine, with no success; they've only got 1 archived version of this page, from May 2015.



Adjustment Q2: Please rank the following songs from EASIEST to HARDEST to FC on Expert Guitar:
Disconnected
Fire (Live at Woodstock)
I Am the Arsonist
The Unforgiven III
Suicide and Redemption JH
Suicide and Redemption KH

Adjustment Q3: Please rank the following songs from EASIEST to HARDEST to FC on Expert Guitar:
Cadillac Solitario (Live)
Dez Moines
Hold Up
Salute Your Solution
The Martyr

Adjustment Q4: Please rank the following songs from EASIEST to HARDEST to FC on Expert Guitar:
Bomb the World
Born to Run
Jailbait
Panic Switch




FINAL LIST
129) Cyanide
130) Ticks
131) If 6 Was 9
132) Sample in a Jar (Live)
133) Iron Fist
134) Love Me Like a Reptile
135) The Silence is Deafening
136) Grave of Opportunity
137) Electro Rock
138) Down With Disease (Live)
139) That Was Just Your Life
140) The End of the Line
141) Use Me
142) Bloodmeat
143) Guitar Duel with Ted Nugent (DLC)
144) My Apocalypse
145) Camel's Night Out
146) Broken, Beat & Scarred
147) On Broken Glass
148) Chalk Dust Torture (Live)
149) Foxey Lady (Live at Woodstock)
150) The Day That Never Comes
151) Anything
152) The James Bond Theme
153) All Nightmare Long
154) The Judas Kiss
155) Guitar Duel With Zakk Wylde (DLC)
156) Bodhisattva
157) Guitar Hero On Tour: Modern Hits Theme
158) Dueling Banjos
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Complete List Of Videos For Reference
1979
21st Century Digital Boy
54, '74, '90, 2010
Adrenalina
Ain't Got Nothin'
All Nightmare Long
All The World Is Mad
Angel
Another Way To Die
Anything
Anything 'Cept The Truth
Audience Of One
Bag It Up
Because Of You
The Bitter End
Black Betty
Black Friday
Bloodmeat
Bodhisattva
Bomb The World
Born To Run
Break It Out
Broken, Beat & Scarred
Cadillac Solitario (Live)
Camel's Night Out
Carolina (Live)
Carolina (Live) (alternate video)
C'est Comme Ca
Chalk Dust Torture (Live)
Cherry Cola
C-Lebrity
Commotion
Consoler Of The Lonely
Cyanide
The Day That Never Comes
Death Blossoms
Debaser
Degenerated
Dez Moines
Dimension
Disconnected
Dis-Moi
Down With Disease (Live)
Drive
Dueling Banjos
Electro Rock
The End Of The Line
The Everlasting Gaze
Everything's Magic
Falling Down
Fat Bottomed Girls
Fire (Live At Woodstock)
Fly One Time
Foxey Lady (Live At Woodstock)
Frail Grasp On The Big Picture
Freedom
(Get Off Your) High Horse Lady
Get Out Of Denver
Gimme All Your Lovin'
G.L.O.W.
Grave Of Opportunity
Guitar Duel With Ted Nugent (DLC)
Guitar Duel With Zakk Wylde (DLC)
Guitar Hero On Tour: Modern Hits Theme
Her Strut
Hi, Hi, Hi
Hier Kommt Alex
Hillbilly Deluxe
Hold Up
Horse To Water
Hot Blooded
Human
I Am The Arsonist
I Only Want You
If 6 Was 9
I'll Never Know
I'm Outta Time
I'm Shipping Up To Boston
In The Shadows
Iron Fist
It's Nice To Know You Work Alone
Jailbait
The James Bond Theme
Jessie's Girl
Jet
Jimi
Johnny
The Judas Kiss
Junior's Farm
Kid Charlemagne
Life In The Fast Lane
Light It Up
Linoleum
Little Wing
Look Good In Leather
Losing Touch
Love Me Like A Reptile
Low (Travis Barker Remix) (Feat. T-Pain)
Lycanthrope
Mama Mae
Man-Sized Wreath
The Martyr
Me And My Gang
Monkey Gone To Heaven
Mr. Brightside
My Apocalypse
My Lucky Day
The Nature Of Reality
Negative Creep
New Slang
New Wave
NJ Legion Iced Tea
No Rain
Nothing All The Time
Number With No Name
Oh Yeah!
Old Time Rock & Roll
On Broken Glass
One Of These Nights
Outtathaway!
Panic Switch
Por La Boca Vive El Pez
Ready To Fall
Rock N' Roll Band
Ruby Soho
Sacrifice
The Sad Punk
Salute Your Solution
Sample In A Jar (Live)
Sappy
Shimmer & Shine
The Shock Of The Lightning
The Silence Is Deafening
Sliver
So What
Soldier On
Stay Away
Stop And Stare
Suicide & Redemption J.H.
Suicide & Redemption K.H.
Supernatural Superserious
That Was Just Your Life
Ticks
To Be Where There's Life
Tomorrow
The Touch
The Turning
The Unforgiven III
Use Me
Very Ape
Waiting For The Rapture
We Are The Champions
Well Thought Out Twinkles
What Have You Done (Feat. Keith Caputo)
What's My Age Again?
Wonderwall
You Know You're Right
Young Cardinals
Your Face
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh jesus

this should be fun

I did have a topic somewhere ranking all these songs minus DM but i wouldnt rely on it too much.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

actually if you could dig up that list and PM it to me i might use it to at least decide on pivot songs going forward. i picked this one because it's towards the middle alphabetically but i'd like to pick ones that are more geared towards breaking the list evenly.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1979 - Hmm... due to the fact it's the same riff throughout i'm gonna go with easier. Tough call though.
21st Century Digital Boy - harder
54, '74, '90, 2010 - much easier, and probably the worst song i've seen in guitar hero.
Adrenalina - seem very similar, guess i'll go with marginally harder.
Ain't Got Nothin' - harder
All Nightmare Long - much harder
All The World Is Mad - harder
Angel - harder
Another Way To Die - easier
Anything - much harder


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easier:
'54. '74, '90, 2010
Ain't Got Nothin'
Another Way To Die

Harder:
1979
21st Century Digital Boy
Adrenalina
All Nightmare Long
All The World Is Mad
Angel
Anything
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

alright time to give my input I guess lol

1979 video is copyright'd btw, here's another one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRe6W-rh5Ic

ITS is kinda a hard song to rate, I can't honestly tell if those chord changes are hard just by watching a video, the strumming looks pretty simple too but it's still alt strumming and a lot of these DLC songs are much easier

1979 is easier, pretty simple and boring
21st Century actually has a solo, that while not hard is probably harder than ITS along with some funky chord changes at the end. I go harder here.
'54 '2010' whatever is easier
Adrenalina is pretty fast-paced, I gotta go harder here
Ain't Got Nothing is harder if only for that little bit in the solo
ANL is obviously harder
All the World is Mad looks clearly harder
Angel I guess is harder?
Another Way to Die is one of the easiest DLC songs, so easier
Anything is one of the hardest DLC songs, so harder lol
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easier:
1979
54, '74, '90, 2010
Another Way To Die

Harder:
21st Century Digital Boy
Adrenalina
Ain't Got Nothin'
All Nightmare Long
All The World Is Mad
Angel
Anything
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was lucky enough to be able to play a lot of this DLC during import testing, even though I don't own a lot of it. Spoonman, if you're looking for recommendations for "middle of the road" pivot songs, I humbly suggest any of the Silversun Pickups songs, maybe Well Thought Out Twinkles? Just an idea...

As for comparing to In the Shadows, I tend to agree with what's been said so far:

Easier
1979
54, '74, '90, 2010
Another Way To Die

Harder
21st Century Digital Boy
Adrenalina
Ain't Got Nothin'
All Nightmare Long
All The World Is Mad
Angel
Anything
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1979
E ****
H *

21st Century Digital Boy
E
H *****

54, '74, '90, 2010
E *****
H

Adrenalina
E
H *****

Ain't Got Nothin'
E *
H ****

All Nightmare Long
E
H *****

All The World Is Mad
E
H *****

Angel
E
H *****

Another Way To Die
E *****
H

Anything
E
H *****

awesome, all of these are decided now. going to the next group of 10. also changed that 1979 video. thanks bulblax. if anyone else notices a dead video let me know if you can find a replacement. when i collected the videos initially every one of them worked.

@drama, speaking of that band, they have to be the #1 "grows on you after a few listens" band ever. i couldnt stand them when the pack first came out in RB. now i have a bunch of their stuff on my ipod because its awesome.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 2:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easier:
Anything 'Cept The Truth - nothing hard

Harder:
Audience Of One - slightly harder chord changes imo
Bag It Up - easier to miss anywhere, but close
Because Of You - clearly harder
The Bitter End - outro strumming
Black Betty - clearly harder
Black Friday - all the soloing
Bloodmeat - muuuch harder
Bodhisattva - oh yeah
Bomb The World - fast strumming and trills
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anything 'Cept The Truth - easier
Audience Of One - chord changes make it SLIGHTLY harder
Bag It Up - fff this is close, I gotta say easier though
Because Of You - harder
The Bitter End - harder
Black Betty - harder
Black Friday - harder
Bloodmeat - HARDER
Bodhisattva - lol
Bomb The World - yeah harder
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anything 'Cept The Truth - slightly easier
Audience Of One - slightly harder
Bag It Up - slighty easier
Because Of You - harder
The Bitter End - harder
Black Betty - harder
Black Friday - harder
Bloodmeat - harder
Bodhisattva - harder
Bomb The World - harder
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anything 'Cept The Truth - easier
Audience Of One - close but easier
Bag It Up - easier
Because Of You - harder
The Bitter End - harder
Black Betty - harder
Black Friday - harder
Bloodmeat - harder
Bodhisattva - harder
Bomb The World - harder
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anything 'Cept The Truth
E ****
H

Audience Of One
E *
H ***

Bag It Up
E ***
H *

Because Of You
E
H ****

The Bitter End
E
H ****

Black Betty
E
H ****

Black Friday
E
H ****

Bloodmeat
E
H ****

Bodhisattva
E
H ****

Bomb The World
E
H ****


closing all of the above. next set of 10 going up now.
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