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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My top 5:

CW > FotS > BW > SD > TTB




(honestly I still think TTB would take me more effort than SD but I'm not even gonna go there)
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

f4phantom2500 wrote:
My top 5:

CW > FotS > BW > SD > TTB


100% agreement here.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FotS > CW > BWolP > SD (not really sure about this but since e erybody says it's a definite fourth then it is) > TTB >>> Speeding

Though most of players who can ACTUALLY FC these songs are saying BWolP is the hardest. Maybe we should believe them? Or I don't know if "most" of them say that but at last Black Window seems to be kinda "underrated" by us who can't FC top 3 songs. That's why I feel like I can only guess the "right order" even if I have a strong feeling about this order. On the other hand I guess it's impossible to say that only people with WoR FGFC can vote...


Most of the list is fine. I really just want to switch Speeding and TTB
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jellu wrote:
FotS > CW > BWolP > SD (not really sure about this but since e erybody says it's a definite fourth then it is) > TTB >>> Speeding

Though most of players who can ACTUALLY FC these songs are saying BWolP is the hardest. Maybe we should believe them? Or I don't know if "most" of them say that but at last Black Window seems to be kinda "underrated" by us who can't FC top 3 songs. That's why I feel like I can only guess the "right order" even if I have a strong feeling about this order. On the other hand I guess it's impossible to say that only people with WoR FGFC can vote...


Most of the list is fine. I really just want to switch Speeding and TTB


I very, very nearly fc'ed Widow and Fury a year or more ago. Neither one had any section that was excessively difficult (the patterns in the hardest parts aren't too crazy, just fast) but CW solo 1 is another level. I would have to sit down and spend serious effort figuring that one out. Besides that, it's purple notes. I know it's not a huge difference like in WT, but it is notable since nothing hard in Fury is purple notes, and true SSB in Widow is purple notes, but that doesn't even make up for the fact that the hardest part of Fury is simply harder, and at the end of a long ass solo that starts crazy and gets crazier.

All 3 songs are consistently difficult, but the simple truth is that CW has the hardest section, and the second solo is nothing shake a stick at. If I was serious about it, I could get Fury or Widow within a day...but highly unlikely I could get CW so quickly.

Thus:

CW > Fury > BW
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

f4phantom2500 wrote:
My top 5:

CW > FotS > BW > SD > TTB

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, I'll do the adjustment questions, and I'll include the formal voting that has happened since my last post (i.e. starting with f4's).



New questions:

Adjustment Q1: Ties That Bind vs. Speeding (Vault Version): which of these is HARDER to FC on Expert Guitar?

Adjustment Q2: please put the following songs in ascending order (easiest to hardest) of ability needed to FC on Expert Guitar:
Black Widow of La Porte
Chemical Warfare
Fury of the Storm




Current votes:

Adjustment Q1
Speeding (Vault Version)
1) JosephL (I've -19'd Solos A and B, so there's at least progress being made. I haven't even 4*'d Speeding)

Ties That Bind
1) f4phantom2500
2) illiniguy
3) Jellu
4) FingerQuick

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Adjustment Q2 (includes my own vote of BWoLP > Fury > CW)

07 Black Widow of La Porte
11 Fury of the Storm
12 Chemical Warfare
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

f4phantom2500 wrote:
I could get Fury or Widow within a day...but highly unlikely I could get CW so quickly.


I really wanna see that.

TTL>Speeding
BW>FotS>CW.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speeding is harder than Ties That Bind. My reasoning for this is simply the fact that it took me more or less 5-6 tries to FC TTB, but Speeding took over 1 hour of grinding.

I'll just reiterate my ranking of:
91: Black Widow of La Porte
92: Fury of the Storm
93: Chemical Warfare
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Q1: Ties That Bind

Same vote that I made way back when this was (essentially) Q89.

Q2:

91. Fury of the Storm
92. Chemical Warfare
93. Black Widow of La Porte


Black Widow has so many tricky parts that I wouldn't even know where to start practicing it...well ok there are a few sections that are clearly "the worst," but there's so much other crap I'm inconsistent at that I wouldn't stand a chance even if I could hit those parts every time. The other 2 are at least manageable outside of a few sections. I put CW ahead of FotS both because its hardest part seems harder and because its much harder throughout than FotS (strumming riffs, solo 2). I know this is kind of hypothetical since I'm not on that level, but since that's probably not going to hold anybody else back anyway, I figure I'll get my opinion in there.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Q1 TTB for the simple fact that the strumming is almost inhuman to keep up to for that period of time, speeding is super abstract, but nothing considerably inhuman, I have come somewhat close to TTB but not with any consistency, blind luck was a part of that (would like to see it above SD too tbh SD seems a bit high on the list)
Q2 Not at that level, cannot offer input
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WhYYZ wrote:
f4phantom2500 wrote:
I could get Fury or Widow within a day...but highly unlikely I could get CW so quickly.


I really wanna see that.

TTL>Speeding
BW>FotS>CW.


...last year I had a run of black widow where I fced up to the end of m246, and I was really consistent at the slider section near the end. When I'm well warmed up I should be able to fc up to near SSB most of the time, and I am usually pretty consistent with everything outside of that part. If I set aside 24 hours to seriously try, I could do it.

I also had a run of fury where I fced up to victory solo I (or whatever the hard part at the end of the solo is called), and a few runs where I missed before but hit that part. It would be harder for me than BW, because even though widow is more consistently difficult, it's still within my threshold so it really comes down to the hardest parts, and the hardest parts of fury are harder for me than the hardest parts of widow.

I also said one or the other, not both. But what's the point in me even trying? I hardly have the patience, I don't really want to put the time into it, and even if I did you would be like 'yeah OK you probably took more than a day'. Besides, I don't have to prove anything to anyone in GH. My accomplishments speak for themselves.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

f4phantom2500 wrote:

I also said one or the other, not both. But what's the point in me even trying? I hardly have the patience, I don't really want to put the time into it, and even if I did you would be like 'yeah OK you probably took more than a day'. Besides, I don't have to prove anything to anyone in GH. My accomplishments speak for themselves.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44s81sZPFOA
He could have easily made 30 or 40
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll repeat my reasoning for Speeding > TTB:

TTB is way more annoying and difficult to get if you're good enough that you could realistically FC both songs. BUT you have to be a lot better at the game to start thinking about FCing Speeding than you do to start thinking about FCing TTB. TTB is just alt strumming, which almost everyone knows how to do. Yeah, that doesn't mean it's easy, but almost everyone has the ability to do it -- they just need to grind for hours and hours to learn when to slow down, when to speed up, and when to change frets. Speeding, on the other hand, requires a ton of different and complex techniques that most players don't have.

In summary,

Effort required: TTB > Speeding
Skill required: Speeding > TTB

I guess it's up to the voter which one makes for a more difficult FC. To me, Speeding > TTB.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TTB > Speeding

Chemical Warfare > Black Widow > Fury Of The Storm
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FOTS > BW > CW (> SD >IYWP > TDWF >) TTB > Speeding

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