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PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 12:49 am    Post subject: Unofficial Guitar Hero Live FC Breakdown: Phase 3, Q 29 + 31 Reply with quote

The people have voted, and we have our final groups! We now come to the questions that determine the final breakdown. We will go two questions at a time, one for the easiest remaining song and one for the hardest. Please do your best to answer both questions! The more participation we have, the better. It'll make for a more accurate list. So let's begin!


Question 29: Which of these songs is the easiest?

A. 45
B. Gold On the Ceiling
C. Now
D. The Rock Show
E. Victory Over the Sun

Question 31: Which of these songs is the hardest?

A. Bangarang
B. Girls
C. Now
D. The Kill
E. Won't Get Fooled Again


FINAL BREAKDOWN:

1. My Songs Know What You Did in the Dark (Light Em Up)
2. Lived a Lie
3. Lies
4. Counting Stars
5. When You Were Young
6. Here's to Never Growing Up
7. Everybody Talks
8. Demons
9. Berzerk
10. Grounds for Divorce
11. Ho Hey
12. Mountain Sound
13. R U Mine?
14.
15.
16.
17.
18.
19.
20.
21.
22.
23.
24.
25.
26.
27. Nuclear Family
28. California King Bed
29. Tragedy + Time
30. Mind Your Manners
31. Little Monster
32. King for a Day
33. I Will Wait
34. Shadow Moses
35. Wastelands
36. Lazaretto
37. Been Away Too Long
38. Sundial
39. Bones Exposed
40. Love Bites
41. Keep On Swinging
42. Tie Your Mother Down





Group 1:
Berzerk
45
Club Foot
Bangarang
California King Bed
Been Away Too Long
Bones Exposed

Group 2:
Counting Stars
Here's to Never Growing Up
Everybody Talks
Demons
Grounds for Divorce
Gold On the Ceiling
Girls

Group 3:
Lies
Ho Hey
Little Monster
King for a Day
I Will Wait
Lazaretto
Keep On Swinging

Group 4:
My Songs Know What You Did in the Dark (Light Em Up)
Lived a Lie
Mountain Sound
Now
Nuclear Family
Mind Your Manners
Love Bites

Group 5:
R U Mine
The Rock Show
Paint It Black
The Anthem
The Kill
Shadow Moses
Sundial

Group 6:
When You Were Young
Victory Over the Sun
Waking Up in Vegas
Won't Get Fooled Again
Tragedy + Time
Wastelands
Tie Your Mother Down


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 1:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's my ordering, to start:

Group 1:
Berzerk
45
Bangarang
California King Bed
Club Foot
Been Away Too Long
Bones Exposed

Group 2:
Counting Stars
Everybody Talks
Here's to Never Growing Up
Grounds for Divorce
Demons
Gold On the Ceiling
Girls

Group 3:
Lies
Ho Hey
Little Monster
I Will Wait
Lazaretto

King for a Day
Keep On Swinging

Group 4:
My Songs Know What You Did In the Dark (Light Em Up)
Lived a Lie
Mountain Sound
Now
Nuclear Family

Mind Your Manners
Love Bites (So Do I)


Group 5:
R U Mine
The Rock Show
The Anthem
The Killl
Paint It Black

Shadow Moses
Sundial

Group 6:
When You Were Young
Waking Up In Vegas
Victory Over the Sun

Won't Get Fooled Again
Tragedy + Time
Wastelands
Tie Your Mother Down

Red for the songs I'm not sure about 100%.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 3:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh boy, been waiting for this to show up.

Group 1:
Berzerk - Obvious in this group. So much dead air.
California King Bed - Has a solo, but it's so damn slow.
Bangarang - Fast gallops and that off beat quiet part make this a *little* harder than CKB.
45 - Strumming.
Club Foot - Strumming. IMO this and 45 should be right next to each other in the final list. If you can do 45, you can do Club Foot.
Been Away Too Long - Chords, and the solo/bridge part with the trips is a pain.
Bones Exposed - Gah, this song is a pain. Stupid breakdown parts with the open notes, and there's a solo for good measure.


Group 2:
Counting Stars - lolez. Literally one pattern for the whole song. Except the intro which is completely negligible.
Here's to Never Growing Up - This one has two patterns for the whole song. Still piss easy, but a little harder than CS.
Everbody Talks - The ending is the only hard part. Still much harder overall then HTNGU.
Demons - This song takes some time to get used to. Very easy to get your rows jumbled here.
Grounds for Divorce - Grace notes, that HOPO chain that shows up twice in the chorus. Still really easy.
Gold On the Ceiling - Hooks in the chorus. Intro is incredibly annoying as well.
Girls - This song's outro does not need to be as long as it is. Choke city. I didn't have much trouble with this (personally think GotC is harder), but I can see where people would struggle with this song.


Group 3:
Lies - Easy.
Ho Hey - Chords. Slow chords, though.
Little Monster - Swing beat, some random fills here and there. Bridge is also kind of a pain. Not that hard.
I Will Wait - CHORDS. This shouldn't be as hard as it is.
King for a Day - Breakdown/solo thing is pretty hard.
Lazaretto - Fuck that solo.
Keep On Swinging - Solo is the hardest section in the game.

Group 4:
My Songs Know What You Did In the Dark (Light Em Up) - Easiest song in the game.
Lived a Lie - Second easiest song in the game.
Now - Slide riff (verses) takes a bit to learn.
Mountain Sound - Chords. Basically a faster Ho Hey.
Nuclear Family - Stupid gallops everywhere, solo is a thing, I guess.
Mind Your Manners - I hate the chords in this song. Solo is also pretty hard.
Love Bites (So Do I) - Lol obvious.

Group 5:
R U Mine - Slow HOPOs. Occasionally a fast hook, and the trill.
The Rock Show - Fast, but no difficult patterns. Chords in the chorus are a little tricky.
The Anthem - Chorus chords, and that riff in verse 2.
The Kill - Awkward intro, awkward bridge, very chokeable. Don't forget that little strumming burst at the end.
Paint It Black - Random. Fuck the hardest part being right at the end.
Shadow Moses - Breakdowns. Especially the first one with the strumming going transitioning into it.
Sundial - Solo is really hard.

Group 6:
When You Were Young - Easy.
Victory Over the Sun - Chords in the chorus. Not that hard since it's pretty slow.
Won't Get Fooled Again - Random, but nothing hard.
Waking Up in Vegas - Fuck that chorus. Once you learn to shift to 2nd position, this isn't that hard. Still pretty damn annoying.
Tragedy + Time - THOSE CHORDS. Right at the very. Fucking. End.
Wastelands - Swing beat makes this deceptively hard.
Tie Your Mother Down - Hardest song in the game.

All these groups have some pretty tight rankings. All those I'm not 100% about are in red.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ty for doing this. won't put them in order as i have played about 10 of the songs in this game.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A:
Club Foot
45
Berzerk
Bangarang
California King Bed
Been Away Too Long
Bones Exposed

Strum songs aren't hard at all IMO, the rest felt sort of axiomatic.

B:
Here's to Never Growing Up
Counting Stars
Demons
Grounds for Divorce
Everybody Talks
Gold on the Ceiling
Girls

Pretty easy songs in this group barring the top two. Girls seriously sucks.

C:
Ho Hey
Lies
I Will Wait
Little Monster
Lazaretto
King for a Day
Keep on Swinging

On the other hand, a pretty brutal group besides the bottom two.

D:
My Songs...
Lived a Lie
Now
Mountain Sound
Mind Your Manners
Nuclear Family
Love Bites

Don't remember MYM being hard...

E:
The Rock Show
R U Mine
Paint It Black
The Anthem
The Kill
Shadow Moses
Sundial

Sundial is an ax, the bottom two are close.

F:
When You Were Young
Victory Over the Sun
Waking Up in Vegas
Won't Get Fooled Again
Tragedy + Time
Wastelands
Tie Your Mother Down

Nothing to say here.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Group 1:
Berzerk
45
Bangarang
California King Bed
Club Foot
Been Away Too Long
Bones Exposed

Group 2:
Counting Stars
Everybody Talks
Here's to Never Growing Up
Grounds for Divorce
Demons
Gold On the Ceiling
Girls

Group 3:
Lies
Ho Hey
Little Monster
King for a Day
I Will Wait
Lazaretto
Keep On Swinging

Group 4:
My Songs Know What You Did In the Dark (Light Em Up)
Lived a Lie
Mountain Sound
Now
Nuclear Family
Mind Your Manners
Love Bites (So Do I)


Group 5:
R U Mine
The Rock Show
The Anthem
The Killl
Paint It Black
Shadow Moses
Sundial

Group 6:
When You Were Young
Waking Up In Vegas
Victory Over the Sun
Won't Get Fooled Again
Tragedy + Time
Wastelands
Tie Your Mother Down
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 2:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Group 1:
Berzerk
California King Bed
Bangarang
45
Club Foot
Been Away Too Long
Bones Exposed

Group 2:
Counting Stars
Everybody Talks
Here's to Never Growing Up
Demons
Grounds for Divorce
Girls
Gold On the Ceiling

Group 3:
Lies
Ho Hey
Little Monster
King for a Day
I Will Wait
Lazaretto
Keep On Swinging

Group 4:
My Songs Know What You Did In the Dark (Light Em Up)
Lived a Lie
Mountain Sound
Now
Nuclear Family
Mind Your Manners
Love Bites (So Do I)


Group 5:
R U Mine
The Rock Show
The Anthem
The Kill
Paint It Black
Shadow Moses
Sundial

Group 6:
When You Were Young
Waking Up In Vegas
Won't Get Fooled Again
Victory Over the Sun
Tragedy + Time
Wastelands
Tie Your Mother Down
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 2:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Posting so I can keep this in my feed. Once I replay all the on disc songs I'll help pitching in, but it's been so long that I can't remember half of the charts, especially since most songs I played 1-2 times.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guys, if you haven't submitted a your lists yet please do so ASAP. It's been over a week and I have five submissions so far... including myself. Not the best set of data to work with... (although it is 5/7 people with a FGFC on SH :p)

Seriously I'd like to move on to phase 2 and I'd like a few more lists if anyone can help!
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is not a thing anymore ? Go to phase 2 please.

Also for a faster breakdown, my idea would be to start off with a somewhat ordered list, someone doing the order of all the 42 songs roughly, and that order (instead of alphabetical) makes the groups, and then you can easily iterate on those. Just my 2 cents.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, you'd be causing a lot of really difficult questions that way. You'd engineer the groups to have songs with similar difficulty levels due to very different sections, which is usually when voting slows to a crawl because we need to break a tie.

If you wanted the groups to be non-arbitrary, you'd want the rankings in each group to be super obvious (such as Ho Hey, Mind Your Manners, Love Bites). Then, we would virtually never have to spend time and energy correcting the order of the initial groups.

We'd need to run one question per song in the game anyway (except for the very last one to be placed). To make the process more efficient, you want to ask as few other questions as possible. Having groups at the start is a necessary evil, but if the voting on the groups is nearly unanimous, we could go straight to normal questions.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was waiting until I was a bit closer to the FGFC to post here, but I'm pretty confident in my rankings now.

Group 1
Berzerk
California King Bed
45 - I'm also of the opinion that this and Club Foot should be next to each other in the final ranking
Club Foot
Bangarang - Gets pushed up a lot by the part you can't hear
Been Away Too Long
Bones Exposed

Group 2
Counting Stars
Grounds for Divorce
Demons
Everybody Talks
Here's To Never Growing Up - Chord changes are an underrated kind of hard
Gold on the Ceiling
Girls

Group 3
Lies
Ho Hey
Little Monster
King For A Day
Lazaretto
Keep On Swinging
I Will Wait - I realize this will be my least popular opinion, but I'll fight for it. I got KoS randomly first try of the day; grinded this one for hours. I hate Mumford & Sons

Group 4
My Songs Know What You Did In The Dark
Lived A Lie
Mountain Sound
Now
Nuclear Family
Mind Your Manners
Love Bites (So Do I)

Group 5
R U Mine
The Rock Show
Paint It Black
The Kill
The Anthem - chord changes are underrated hard
Shadow Moses
Sundial

Group 6
When You Were Young
Victory Over the Sun
Waking Up In Vegas
Won't Get Fooled Again
Wastelands
Tragedy + Time
Tie Your Mother Down
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 2:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Group 1:
Berzerk
California King Bed
Bangarang
45
Club Foot
Been Away Too Long
Bones Exposed

Group 2:
Counting Stars
Here's to Never Growing Up
Everybody Talks
Grounds for Divorce
Demons

Gold On the Ceiling
Girls

Group 3:
Lies
Ho Hey
Little Monster


I Will Wait
King for a Day


Lazaretto
Keep On Swinging


Group 4:
My Songs Know What You Did In the Dark (Light Em Up)
Lived a Lie
Mountain Sound
Now
Mind Your Manners
Nuclear Family
Love Bites (So Do I)


Group 5:
R U Mine
The Rock Show
The Anthem
Paint It Black
The Kill
Shadow Moses
Sundial

Group 6:
When You Were Young
Victory Over the Sun
Waking Up In Vegas
Won't Get Fooled Again
Tragedy + Time
Wastelands
Tie Your Mother Down
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 6:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for the lists everyone! We had some clear-cut consensuses on some songs, whereas others were near impossible to place! That's where phase 2 comes in! With a few more votes we can sort out the groups and get voting on the final breakdown.

PS: The songs up for debate had at least 2 dissenting opinions on where they should be ranked within the groups. Everything else was either unanimous or had one outlier vote (usually Rob XD)
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1A: Club Foot ~ Man I just can't see how CKB is so much easier to some of you guys tbh
1B: HtNGU ~ This was my second FC for good reason probably
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