Scoring System FAQ (cutoff calculation explained!)

**Dreyvas** · Joined: 19 Jul 2006 Posts: 2416 Location: Cleveland, OH

Wow. BUMP
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**b3nz0r** · Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Posts: 972 Location: Harker Heights, TX

Only Dreyvas would try to bump a sticky...
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**Dreyvas** · Joined: 19 Jul 2006 Posts: 2416 Location: Cleveland, OH

Okay, so I slept a little too long last night...
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**Kwyjibo** · Joined: 05 Feb 2006 Posts: 11

Don't know if this has been posted elsewhere, but it looks like the first 9 notes get scored at 1x, and the 10th note will be at 2x. So a mistake in a stream of single notes would cost 3150 points instead of 3200. Please check any YYZ video where the player hits the intro section for proof.

**Riff** · Joined: 08 May 2006 Posts: 104 Location: Champaign, IL

Yeah, we know about it, but the behavior is new in GH2. The logic described in the original post is accurate for GH1. Your math is a little off in the penalty calculation.

(50+100+150+200)*9 + 200*4 = 5300
(50+100+150+200)*10 = 5000
(200)*40 = 8000

There is a 3000 point penalty for breaking a streak in GH1, and a 2700 point penalty in GH2. The FAQ considers the points lost by missing a note but that is really a separate penalty and the multplier penalty can be initiated without missing a note anyway.
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**Kwyjibo** · Joined: 05 Feb 2006 Posts: 11

Sorry, you're right about GH1 after verifying against Echelar's Unsung video. I should've checked w/ a GH1 video first. Didn't think they would change the scoring system in such a small way like that between GH1 and GH2.

But when I replay the YYZ video (using Dreyvas's video), I see the score increase as:
50, 100, 150, 200, 250, 300, 350, 400, 450, (9 notes)
550, 650, 750, 850, 950, 1050, 1150, 1250, 1350, 1450, (10 notes)
1600, 1750, 1900, 2050, 2200, 2350, 2500, 2650, 2800, 2950, (10 notes)
3150, 3350, ...

Either way, the change is 50 or 300 points, so it's not that big of a deal.

**JCirri** · Joined: 04 Feb 2006 Posts: 4576

**Dommu** · Joined: 18 Oct 2006 Posts: 155

Thanks for the Help ^^

**katamakel** · Joined: 16 Jun 2006 Posts: 1467 Location: Stockholm, Sweden

How does star power work in co-op?
From looking quickly whilst playing YYZ today it looked like it takes 3 star power groups (no whammy) to get exactly enough to activate?
Seems odd though (no pun intended.)

**fatespeaks** · Joined: 25 Mar 2006 Posts: 41 Location: Indianapolis, IN

**Riz** · Joined: 06 Jun 2006 Posts: 2011

Well... no, because he explicitly says it doesn't include the completion. He's just trying to concretize the amount of star power per beat... 3.33%, therefore 30 beats is a full meter... aside from the completion.

Riz.
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**parasyte** · Joined: 02 Nov 2006 Posts: 7

**Riz** · Joined: 06 Jun 2006 Posts: 2011

Our current best thinking on this is that the Average Multiplier from the stats screen is counting the multiplier as a function of time (or bars), as opposed to as a function of total notes. Since it's the number of notes under multiplier that counts for scoring, and not the number of bars, this can lead to situations like the one you describe above where the avg multiplier appears to be lower than what should be required to get a given star rating.

All that said, the new scoring system has yet to be fully tested and put through it's paces, but that's the opinion at the moment.

Riz.
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**Loberto** · Joined: 13 Feb 2006 Posts: 33 Location: Hudson, NY

I noticed the 2.8 avg. multiplier = 5 star rating on two songs last night on normal difficulty. I thought perhaps the cutoff was stepped down to make it easier on the lower difficulties, ie. 3.0 on expert, 2.9 on hard, 2.8 on normal.... But maybe that is not the case.

I 5-starred Psychobilly Freakout on normal with a 2.8, and the other one was probably the Suicidal Tendencies song, but I'm not sure.

**JCirri** · Joined: 04 Feb 2006 Posts: 4576

The FAQ has been updated to include the differences for GH2. The only thing missing is the details about SP for co-op (how much is gained from whammying, for completing combos, and how long it lasts). If anyone wants to run some tests and provide this information I'll be glad to update it again.
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