Scoring, Star Power, and Squeezing on Drums

**CaLKuLuZ** · Joined: 17 Dec 2008 Posts: 34

lol and I thought I had stumbled upon something new, looks like everyone knows how to sqeeze

Anyway, has anyone had any problems with the second quick riff on Anything? It seems like the game just stops recognizing that youre playing for maybe 2 seconds........which is just like the BYOB Send the Poor sections.

Also, I think the timing window is also broken more than we think. I've had multiple occasions where I've hit notes VERY late; and later on in the song, I will try to hit them in the same place, and the game will not pick the hits up. Same thing occurs when I try to hit them early. It's as if the game decides whether or not it wants you to keep combo

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**HoorayItsMike** · Joined: 28 Jul 2007 Posts: 1604 Location: Ohio

**hydrapower** · Joined: 28 May 2006 Posts: 1708 Location: Rochester, MN

At this point I never FC Send the Poor but I also never die. I never even get to x2.

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**HoorayItsMike** · Joined: 28 Jul 2007 Posts: 1604 Location: Ohio

**hydrapower** · Joined: 28 May 2006 Posts: 1708 Location: Rochester, MN

I'll try that. I was just saying that because the conventional wisdom says you either die or FC the part. I do neither.

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**Pas26** · Joined: 04 Oct 2008 Posts: 3664 Location: Québec, Canada

bump to know if I have to do bass front-end squeeze in GH:M. If a note is hit during the free time, will it count as a note under SP?
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**ElementOfZero** · Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 4:39 pm Post subject:

Pretty sure it does in SH, so I assume it does in GHM. Just play a song in which you gain SP fairly quick and know you can FC up until the activation. 1 run go up until the point where you'd activate and stop playing past the note. Record the score, then do the same thing but activate on the same note and quit playing and compare the scores.
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**WarlordTm** · Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 4:52 pm Post subject:

I don't know if anybody else said this before me (probably not), but there is an even more complex way of front-end squeezing, using the fact that you don't have to hit both cymbals at the *exact* same time to activate SP.

I've been trying to beat my old score on About a Girl so it would be on the PSN leaderboards. My highscore is 289,052 (offline run) but I always seem to get about 200 points less when I try to beat it, while I'm absolutely positive I hit the front-end and back-end squeeze.

Now I just realized how it is possible to get the first yellow note under SP and still hit the back-end squeeze, resulting in a 200 point increase in your score, I'd like to call this optimal-squeezing. I'll use About a Girl as an example:

You want to activate SP right before the first R+Y after you hit the second SP phrase (according to my path on pathhero). Usually you'd hit both cymbals right before the R+Y note, the yellow note would then 'disappear' early because you hit it while activating SP, after that you'd hit the red note, which is then under SP.

Optimal-squeezing is more complex and you'd have to be a master in this or be very lucky to pull it off. Again, you want to activate right before the first R+Y, now here's the trick: hit the yellow cymbal slightly outside of the timing window so the yellow note of the R+Y 'chord' won't disappear early. Right after that, hit the orange cymbal INside the timing window of the R+Y 'chord' (resulting in SP being activated), or it won't be possible to hit the back-end R+Y squeeze. Then hit the R+Y as you normally would, resulting in both notes being under SP and giving you 200 points more.

This is, of course, extremely difficult to do and, as far as I know, I've only done it once, being very lucky (with my 1st place About a Girl highscore). It's very difficult to master but with, say, Hail to the Freaks, you could get up to 386480 points (as opposed to 385880, when squeezing regularly) if you manage to optimal-squeeze during every SP activation, so mastering this technique is worth your time if you want to go for a truly optimal score.

**ElementOfZero** · Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 7:31 pm Post subject:

I do that for all my activations, I thought it was well-known.
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**WarlordTm** · Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 9:15 pm Post subject:

Maybe there's a reason you got global 1st on so many songs with the RB drums...

So what happened to your GH:WT kit? You posted about 30 scores and then stopped. I want to know if I really deserve my 27 global 1st scores :P

**knightmetallica3** · Joined: 29 Apr 2009 Posts: 55 Location: Harrisonburg, VA

I am first on Expert + songs combined and almost first on ALL of the songs. (first all gigs and top 4 all songs) I never squeez...
I focus more on hitting the notes and the actual star power path then squez's. Drums get so much points, you don't need to squeez.
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**Pas26** · Joined: 04 Oct 2008 Posts: 3664 Location: Québec, Canada

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**prognostics** · Joined: 13 May 2008 Posts: 1252

I didn't know the orange cymbol was worth more.
That's really interesting. I already knew about the bass but...

thanks a lot, I enjoyed the whole post.