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karatechess
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| sedron wrote: | | Is it really believable that the writing staff wrote up season upon season of repetitive "catching-them-all" with the hopes of someday saying "Heh, screw you all who actually watched this show through! It was all a dream?" |
Bob Newhart ended his second series kind of like this. You had to have known about the first series he had to understand that that's what that was, but still, that's kind of how he ended it. (What!?!? A 14 year old knows about Bob Newhart's TV series? lol) |
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Qarx
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| Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 5:19 am Post subject: |
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| sedron wrote: | | microgamer2vs2 wrote: | Actually, that's exactly what he's referring to. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPXtir65p40 Although it's not an anime.
EDIT: I realize your post might've been sarcastic, but since this is Gen Chat we can't delete posts :/ maybe I'll think of something else to put here. |
I wasn't being sarcastic; I was genuinely confused. I've never played SMB2 through and didn't know it ended that way, although that ending might be due to the game being a redone version of a completely different Japanese game for sale in America in the stead of the Lost Levels. And no, it does not fit the criteria for being a show, which is moreso what I was aiming for. Playing a game through to find out "it was all a dream," can range from mildly annoying to frustrating, but for a show that's ran as long as Poke'mon to end that way would piss-off a lot of people, I'd imagine.  |
Reminds me of the two-part episode of Family Guy where Stewie kills Lois, and we find out in the end it was only a "simulation", and Stewie and Brian discuss it.
I'd try to post a link, but I can't. Stupid Internet Channel >_>
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Chubbly457
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| Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 5:34 am Post subject: |
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Wow, this is very interesting. Like many other people in this thread, my mind is blown. 
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drewbles 
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I actually read this through and I must admit I was quite interested. What really struck my attention was this paragraph:| Quote: | | Mr. Mime is actually a stand in for Ash's father, one that can't emotionally abuse him or his mom. He is a Pokémon, a peace loving creature that's oddly humanoid, but that can never hurt a human. Ash's was never really hurt by a Pokémon, so he sees them all as harmless; whereas, in the real world they may be quite feral or vicious (as seen in the early episodes). Again falling back to the theory that the only real Pokémon are the ones from the first season, and everything else is just further speculation coming from his mind on what new species would look like. |
It makes me wonder then, is there really 150 Original 1st Series Pokemon? Considering Ash encountered Ho-oh flying over his town before he fell into this so-called coma?
This whole concept makes a lot of sense to me. I was a big fan of the 1st series of Pokemon. So I remember most of the episodes even from when I was a younger boy. It all seems like Ash is living in a dream world, Kind of like Tidus in Final Fantasy X. I honestly am I big fan of this theory. It is definitely something to think about.
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sedron
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| Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 6:01 am Post subject: |
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| drewbles wrote: | I actually read this through and I must admit I was quite interested. What really struck my attention was this paragraph:| Quote: | | Mr. Mime is actually a stand in for Ash's father, one that can't emotionally abuse him or his mom. He is a Pokémon, a peace loving creature that's oddly humanoid, but that can never hurt a human. Ash's was never really hurt by a Pokémon, so he sees them all as harmless; whereas, in the real world they may be quite feral or vicious (as seen in the early episodes). Again falling back to the theory that the only real Pokémon are the ones from the first season, and everything else is just further speculation coming from his mind on what new species would look like. |
It makes me wonder then, is there really 150 Original 1st Series Pokemon? Considering Ash encountered Ho-oh flying over his town before he fell into this so-called coma?
This whole concept makes a lot of sense to me. I was a big fan of the 1st series of Pokemon. So I remember most of the episodes even from when I was a younger boy. It all seems like Ash is living in a dream world, Kind of like Tidus in Final Fantasy X. I honestly am I big fan of this theory. It is definitely something to think about. |
Could Ho-oh also be part of the coma in theory? I'd think if he fell into a coma that it's possible he didn't wake up at all after the lightningstrike and that his waking up with Pikachu immediately afterwards was part of his imagination. |
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Raen
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| sedron wrote: | | Could Ho-oh also be part of the coma in theory? I'd think if he fell into a coma that it's possible he didn't wake up at all after the lightningstrike and that his waking up with Pikachu immediately afterwards was part of his imagination. |
Well, that would certainly explain why no one came to investigate the catastrophic column of lightning. I mean really, no one noticed that? And I guess the appearance of Ho-Oh could be the first bit of something truly out of the ordinary happening to Ash, who finds himself fighting alongside these legendary Pokemon throughout the series (right place, right time? lolno). |
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UndeadFil13QC 
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In my opinion, this is too well thought out to be true. I like this theory, it was a nice read, it totally makes sense, but...... no.
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jetaketa 
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First off, this was an amazing read.
Second, Dallas had killed off one of their lead characters, the ratings dropped, and then all of a sudden he was in the shower and it was as if his wife had been dreaming the whole thing, and he was back.
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i didnt read anything i just saw lightning and such\...so your saying everything in pokemon episodes were a dream? or....i never watched pokemon
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to the article, damn son...
and question, so gary really wanted to be a professor??? (I don't watch the series anymore)
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| UndeadFil13QC wrote: | | In my opinion, this is too well thought out to be true. I like this theory, it was a nice read, it totally makes sense, but...... no. |
This. It's just an anime for kids. This theory is just the result of somebody being extremely bored. The fact that Joy & Jenny look the same in every town is meant to be funny, and it is IMO. And Brock failing is funny, too. It can't be Ash's sexuality, although it is well thought out, there are 2 reasons that it can't be:
1)Ash is 10. There's no way he's in puberty yet;
2)This is an anime for kids. Kids that aren't in puberty, either. That also explains why everything is "perfect" Ash's world. He's the main character, and kids couldn't bear if something bad happens in the cartoon.
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Wow. This was waaay too heavy to read at 8:30 in the morning.
The rest of my day is going to be a total mindfuck because of this.
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This is a really cool theory and an awesome read. Obviously it's over-analyzed but that is what makes it interesting, that someone can come up with a theory like this that works perfectly. Pretty ingenious if you ask me.
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| ThunderAlex wrote: | | UndeadFil13QC wrote: | | In my opinion, this is too well thought out to be true. I like this theory, it was a nice read, it totally makes sense, but...... no. |
This. It's just an anime for kids. This theory is just the result of somebody being extremely bored. The fact that Joy & Jenny look the same in every town is meant to be funny, and it is IMO. And Brock failing is funny, too. It can't be Ash's sexuality, although it is well thought out, there are 2 reasons that it can't be:
1)Ash is 10. There's no way he's in puberty yet;
2)This is an anime for kids. Kids that aren't in puberty, either. That also explains why everything is "perfect" Ash's world. He's the main character, and kids couldn't bear if something bad happens in the cartoon. |
That's actually what I was thinking when I got to the sexuality parts. A 10-year-old boy has any kind of sexuality? Really  ?
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| Qarx wrote: | | ThunderAlex wrote: | | UndeadFil13QC wrote: | | In my opinion, this is too well thought out to be true. I like this theory, it was a nice read, it totally makes sense, but...... no. |
This. It's just an anime for kids. This theory is just the result of somebody being extremely bored. The fact that Joy & Jenny look the same in every town is meant to be funny, and it is IMO. And Brock failing is funny, too. It can't be Ash's sexuality, although it is well thought out, there are 2 reasons that it can't be:
1)Ash is 10. There's no way he's in puberty yet;
2)This is an anime for kids. Kids that aren't in puberty, either. That also explains why everything is "perfect" Ash's world. He's the main character, and kids couldn't bear if something bad happens in the cartoon. |
That's actually what I was thinking when I got to the sexuality parts. A 10-year-old boy has any kind of sexuality? Really ? |
If I remember correctly (and it's been a long time) I could've sworn he was 12-13 age. The Sexuality is legit, and the way he explains it makes sense.
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